The Chen Yimin Answer to Hudud …
as DAP & Haris Ibrahim mollycoddle Syaria & the PAS Mullahs
Muslim! Give Us Back Our Child!
Above: Syaria kidnaps an infidel, kafir daughter 陈乙敏 Chen Yimin (or Tan Yi Min) from the Chinese and her father at the point of a gun (below).
If the constitution today cannot even protect the 陈 Tan family in Penang from infringement by Syaria issued in another state, Selangor, then the worse is to be expected for the Chinese (and Indians) once a federal, country-wide, Islamic regime of penal laws are introduced – guarantee or no guarantee.
This Islamic tyranny is clear as day. But Petra Kamarudin, whose son would be missing a leg today, says let’s ‘debate’. Teresa Kok might say not to racialise the matter.
Bishop Paul Tan, DAP’s preacher and church mouthpiece, has the best answer to hudud. In open connivance with Anwar Ibrahim and PAS, he has the gall to talk of ‘iron-clad’ guarantees. Here’s one answer to the Paul Tan’s guarantee: Please take back your iron and shove it down Anwar’s arse where it belongs.
After Anwar Ibrahim’s defining statement of support for PAS by PKR, and then matched days later by Paul Tan from the Church, the hudud and Syaria laws for Malaysia have today gone beyond the matter as a PAS-only agenda. It’s way beyond.
Once hudud goes to referendum stage (Khalid Samad talks of it and so, too, the Dr Fly of PAS Kuala Selangor), starting with Kelantan, the inevitable result takes place because the kampung Melayu fearful of saying ‘no’ would say ‘yes’ to it. (A Kelantan-only, Malay-only referendum is like telling the church choir boys this: “those who say no to the Ten Commandments for inclusion into the Charter of the Church of Fatima, stand up!“)
Other Malays will know if they, for example, commit rape or incest (which by then would be defined differently), the chances of being prosecuted, conviction much less, is on a sliding scale falling into their favour and against the female victim, especially if a 14-year-old niece or neighbour.
After Kelantan, Terengganu next, Kedah, Perlis, and the rest of the country; the constitution is no obstacle no matter what the Muslim academicians might say through The Star.
This advancing progression of hudud and Syaria from mere party ideology into referendum then law, state by state, suggests something defective in the constitution. But, this also says that, better than the constitution, the Chinese (and Hindu Indian) presence in Malaysia stands between the Melayus and a medieval Arab law that no Melayu can challenge or dare to.
So far, the Chinese unstated response to it has been as straightforward as it is simply: do what you want to your own – and, please, by all means stone all your women and cut off all the legs especially those from the Mahathir Malay magpies and blog heads, see if we care – only don’t you dare touch one of us.
In this attitude, however, there is an underlying problem: how to trust PAS or Niz Aziz or Anwar or Paul Tan, with or without their iron promises?
But their promises are worth nothing. There is no such a thing as an iron clad guarantee: Syaria was applied to Chen Yimin 陈乙敏 and father (plus countless other cases, involving in particular Indian Hindu families) who, ill-advised, perhaps deliberately, by an Anwar-PKR lawyer diverted the case from a supposedly constitutional ‘iron-clad’ Syaria-not-for-Chinese issue into a family, custody law dispute.
And the result of the dispute? The father Chen Zhaohong 陈招宏, much to his eternal regret, lose hands down to his ex-wife and Yimin’s convert mother Fatimah Foong Abdullah.
Without the protection of the constitution and never to trust untrustworthy judges and politicians (those Umno blog politican wannabes don’t count), and betrayed by the PKR and DAP, both looking the other way over Yimin, then the Chinese must seek an alternate response to hudud.
One way out is to stand with and alongside any Melayu who wants to say No to hudud, No to guarantees, No to PAS, No to Anwar and No to Paul Tan. That means:
- (a) no deal, no talk, nothing, regardless of how hudud is packaged. Anwar and PAS in the name of their Allah can do what they want to the grandchildren of Mahathir and his shitty Shiites, it is no business of the others.
- (b) Because Anwar says hudud should be respected – it is democracy, he says – then every Malay, over age 18, must be constitutionally permitted to decide if the person is Muslim once hudud be forced on the Melayu. Anwar must respect every Melayu whether to be Muslim Malay. Freely deciding is also democracy, mah. (Mahathir blog heads can stay Islam since they, so they say, own MALAYsia.)
This Chinese (and Indian) political position rest on the platform: since federal powers supervene the state, and because federal matters impinge on the Chinese, then the Chinese citizenry steps in. The Chinese is entitled, constitutionally and legally, to have a say not on the hudud construction but whether or not the federation says OK to PAS doing whatever it wants to Kelantan.
This legal situation, going backwards, upon reaching the Chinese produces a situation in which the Chinese have before them a Sino-Confucian duty to the Melayu. This duty is known as citizen-kin.
The duty demands a straight answer: what is the Chinese to do for their own sake and for the sake of their Melayu citizen-kin, whether the Melayu is for or against hudud? (This kin duty is ethically valid, possessing the force of familial truth, unless of course those Mahathir barking and spinning blogheads make good their threat – cakap saja – to evict every Chinese from this land they had sequestered and fictitiously labelled ‘Tanah Melayu‘.)
A ramification from this citizen-kin principle extrapolates, thus:
Hudud can enter Kelantan only after every Melayu and Chinese and Hindu Indian in all Malaysia agrees to a PAS Muslim-only hudud referendum in the state. That is, PAS must get agreement from every Chinese, Melayu, and Indian in order to conduct a Kelantan-only, Malay-only referendum.
Nik Aziz, et al, cannot expect to slip hudud into Kelantan by the backdoor without everybody, by the front door, first agreeing to let them do it. Kelantan is a part of the federal state of Malaysia, not a separate independent entity – i.e. PAS can do whatever it wants there – whether constitutionally or on religious grounds. Consequently, (i) Kelantan cannot usurp the legislative powers of the federation, and (ii) it belongs to the Chinese citizenry as much as it is to the PAS Malays.
This answers Khalid Samad of PAS Shah Alam and Dr Fly of Kuala Selangor.
Because hudud has now gone beyond PAS, nation-wide, widened and instigated by Anwar and Paul Tan, then the task is to take it head on by as many people as may be found, all throwing into its path as many rocks as Gunung Tahan has on its slopes.
Not for one person, not for anybody, not one; hudud was never meant to see even the light of day. Yet, how has it come to this stage in which PKR in Anwar and the Church in Paul Tan join hands in its support, guarantee or no guarantee?
Answer: the DAP and the Haris ‘Christian Arise’ Ibrahim.
Rock, Rocket, Rocking Haris
The rock clique of Paul-James-David with a tokkish ‘guru’ in the background while Haris shouts from behind “Don’t worry, be happy! Yea, Yea, we’ve the Rock of Gibraltar to defend us”.
In 2003, James Ngeh Koo Ham:
DAP Perak fully support the CEC decision requiring DAP Terengganu members to quit PAS appointed political posts. We must never accept the implementation of an Islamic State in Malaysia just because we are accommodated in the Government.
In March 2010, the same James Jesus son of Ngeh seven years later to Nut Graph:
The words “secular state” and “Islamic state” connote different meanings to different people. I would prefer to discuss this from the stand point of a theocratic state versus a secular state.
After pussyfooting with the term that’s as straightforward as ‘Islamic’, he side-steps the dichotomy and suggests instead an Islamic state co-existing with a “secular state” but not a “humanistic secular state”. And the difference between the two being: the former is a joint Islamic-Christian state that has ‘God’ in it, upper case ‘g’, meaning Jehovah God and Allah, whereas the latter has infidel Sino humanism or Hindu kafir stone statutes. On those, says James, never, never, never.
Plainly he was trying to hide his sedition against the constitution. Here’s James obfuscating on the proof of his attempt to initiate a hudud state:
A secular state must not also mean it is anti-religion or anti-God. Good values taught in [all] religions must be adopted by [people] in a secular state after they have been examined and scrutinised. Therefore, I support a secular state imbued with virtues, and not a humanistic secular state.
In between those two statements, 2003 and 2010 – which is a sea change, a betrayal in fact, of DAP’s beginning ideology, going from secular to part-Christian, part-Islamic, any which way it is still a religious state – enter Haris Ibrahim and David Nga Kor Ming.
Both go from town to town tilling the ground for the grand construction of PAS and to help it not just to emigrate from Kelantan, Terengganu into national, including Sarawak, Sabah politics, but also into constitutional policy making.
David Nga, first; the clip below is self-explanatory into herding the Chinese and Hindus into the arms of PAS policy ideology:
In 2009, before David Nga was proclaiming PAS righteousness, Haris would sing the praises of PAS For All.
Below is the PAS invasion of Kuala Sepetang during the Bukit Gantang by-election that eventually brought one more PAS person into Parliament, a man named Nizar. Pushing, needling and instigating from behind were Haris Ibrahim and his flock, the bangsa people with their assorted names, Zorro, Eyes Wide Open, Temenggong, Jaya, Fat-mah….
Haris at the time would say with much presumption and in a condescending tone of the Chinese of Kuala Sepetang:
They were no longer afraid of PAS like they once were.
Afraid? The Chinese afraid of PAS, hence of Islam? Kuala Sepetang told Haris Ibrahim they had been cowards hidden away in a corner of the peninsula? Afraid since when? And what’s there to be afraid of? Isn’t hudud for Muslims only, or has Haris the Muslim been lying?
PAS for all and Haris ‘Christian Arise’ Ibrahim for PAS.
In 2011, October, two years and a half after saying the Chinese had stopped being afraid of PAS, they were told to be wary instead. Haris (in this) speaks as if he has only just discovered what the PAS mullahs stand for and where they are headed with their Islam politics, and so urges his flock to…
go on, take a peek at Nik Aziz’s hudud and see if you still want to remain silent on this issue.
That clip he refers to is about three years old, meaning at the time he was campaigning for PAS. Nik Aziz’s speech at the 3:40 minute mark which Haris points to reads as follows
Dah dia buka aurat. Dirogol. Padanlah muka dirogol. Dia jual murah-murah. Dia dok jual murah-murah. Betis dia, muka dia, peha dia. Rogol lah! Peduli apa?
(in translation at Jebat Must Die) She did not cover herself. She got raped. Serves her right. She made herself cheap. She sells herself cheap. Her calves, her face, her thighs. Rape her! Who cares?
For three years or more, Haris, like Umno before, has been mollycoddling PAS in order to simultaneously win from and for it an electorate constituency. Now Haris does a 180 degree turn against PAS For All – PAS is not even for the Melayu pendatangs from Indonesia; it is PAS For Arabs.
The Haris refutation is strange, which wins him praise and it is bought even by the Umno people and sympathizers in the like of Jebat Must Die.
But can Haris be true or genuine because the diversion of votes from PAS ends up in the PKR and the DAP. Landing either in PKR or DAP, those votes turn up on Anwar’s side (the Prime Minister elect, who DAP’s Lim Guan Eng has vowed to support in life or death). PAS For Hudud gets a ride under a new banner Pakatan For All.
This would explain why Haris has today a new slogan, anointing DAP as the ‘Rock of Gibraltar’. Yet, this is the same piece of rock that boasts a double-dealing James Ngeh, a prevaricating David Nga and especially Bishop Paul Tan. The Church in particular is, after all, the bedrock on which stands the the DAP evangelical rocket.
Paul Tan cited in Harakah:
I say it’s time to allow Muslims in Kelantan, if they so desire, to implement shariah only for them…. It shows he is not dogmatic. I say let him and all who hold with him have their way.
Haris’s sloganeering and mistakes are legendary, equaled only by his deceitful ineptitude – starting with Save the constitution, Petition the King, PAS For All, Hartal, Bangsa/Anak Malaysia.
In all the cases, he leads his idiot flock – the EWOs, the Tem-gongs and the Fat-mahs – from one dark hole into another darker hole. And in this progression Haris’s ‘Anything But Umno‘ (ABU) gets PAS in by getting DAP in, Anwar in, back door or front door doesn’t matter.
Hudud inches its way into Parliament, with helping hands by the dozens and from all directions: the bishop, Allah’s gift, the MCLM Anointer of Saints, president of ABU, Teresa the Kok, Hannah ‘Mother-of-Sham’ Yeoh, Eli ‘Sexuality’ Wong, and then that half-gweilo, half-Melayu chairman in the UK going round in cosmological circles, an old man arguing with boys.
After hudud gets into Parliament, perhaps they could cut off that man’s Quran-Bible citing tongue as appropriate punishment for a prevaricating apostate. The people wishes to, as the good bishop has kindly suggested, stand to one side and watch the public spectacle: Haris ‘Christian Arise’ Ibrahim chopped off his tongue.
Before you lose it any last words, bro?
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